Lionel Shriver: Cultural Appropriation and Goodness in Art

0:00 – Intro: novelist and journalist Lionel Shriver
0:39 – Paywalls and paying for journalism
2:40 – Rolling Stone's pay-to-publish council
3:37 – Substack, Andrew Sullivan, and dissident voices
5:39 – Tech platforms, exile, and Joe Rogan on Spotify
7:39 – Publishing fiction in an anxious climate
10:37 – Fired by social media mobs and J.K. Rowling
11:43 – Separating art from the artist
13:11 – Hachette drops Woody Allen's memoir
14:26 – Activism versus doing your job well
15:42 – Too much concern with goodness in art
19:49 – Brooklyn's self-righteous neighbors in 2020
22:52 – Life after Trump and Biden's left flank
26:14 – Executive orders and women's sports
28:37 – Cultural appropriation in fiction
32:11 – Sensitivity readers as self-appointed ambassadors
34:46 – People who object to books never read them
35:24 – A risky character in The Motion of the Body Through Space
36:46 – Glenn Loury, John McWhorter, and diversity hires
39:39 – What we want from literature
41:26 – How Lionel builds her characters
43:51 – We Need to Talk About Kevin and school shootings
45:34 – The Mandibles, national debt, and inflation
50:25 – New York Forever and leaving the city
53:54 – Hollowed-out New York and London
54:43 – New York's selective schools and leaving for good
56:46 – Teen readers of We Need to Talk About Kevin
57:28 – Wrap-up and Locals questions