Kirsten Fleming: Inside the Daniel Penny Trial
KEY MOMENTS
0:00 – Intro: New York Post columnist Kirsten Fleming
0:54 – Daniel Penny found not guilty in Jordan Neely's death
3:36 – Subway riders testify they were terrified
5:36 – Lou's own subway scare with his pregnant wife
8:46 – Why the verdict matters for New Yorkers
10:25 – When New Yorkers stopped calling out bad behavior
13:45 – Jordan Neely's history and the city's top 50 list
16:37 – Over-incarceration claims and an absent father
19:14 – The civil suit against Daniel Penny
20:35 – Race, self-defense, and confusing double standards
22:56 – What the video and medical testimony showed
26:07 – What Brazilian jiu-jitsu teaches about chokeholds
27:47 – Kirsten gets kicked on the subway
29:59 – Excusing antisocial behavior, and K2
33:34 – Hawk Newsome's comments outside the courtroom
36:00 – Vigilantes, Kyle Rittenhouse, and Penny's safety
37:57 – Meeting Daniel Penny after the verdict
40:34 – Lou Carnesecca, St. John's, and the old Big East
46:54 – Basque roots, Argentina, and learning Spanish
53:24 – Eva Longoria, Alec Baldwin, and Hilaria Baldwin
58:20 – "I miss the days when people had real faces"
1:03:11 – Paul Newman, Gene Hackman, and original faces
1:04:31 – The gay Lincoln documentary tweet and wrap-up
ABOUT THIS EPISODE
New York Post features columnist Kirsten Fleming joins Lou to talk about covering the Daniel Penny trial from inside and outside the courtroom, the details online commenters keep leaving out, and when New Yorkers stopped calling out bad behavior.
We also get into subway riders testifying they were terrified, Lou's own subway scare with his pregnant wife, Jordan Neely's history, the civil suit against Penny, what Brazilian jiu-jitsu teaches about chokeholds, Kirsten getting kicked on the subway, Hawk Newsome outside the courtroom, meeting Daniel Penny after the verdict, Lou Carnesecca and the old Big East, Hilaria Baldwin, and why she misses the days when people had real faces.