Jason Noto: The Death of Movie Theaters and Indie Film
KEY MOMENTS
0:00 – Intro: filmmaker Jason Noto
1:34 – Brooklyn film shoots and a towed car
2:54 – Working with Elisabeth Moss before Mad Men
4:26 – Directing Timothée Chalamet in his first short
6:01 – Wonka, Dune, and Call Me by Your Name
7:03 – El Camino: a road trip movie made on the road
9:55 – Werner Herzog, Fitzcarraldo, and My Best Fiend
11:36 – Substack and bringing back movie theaters
13:42 – Growing up at a Baltimore drive-in
15:10 – Beyond the Night and getting lost on streaming
18:41 – Promoting work that sinks after release
19:54 – The hidden trauma of releasing a film
22:04 – Typecasting and audience comfort zones
23:39 – Seeing seven 2007 movies in theaters
24:58 – COVID, gig work, and the stay-at-home lifestyle
27:04 – A renewed appetite for in-person experiences
28:09 – Gen Z, dating, and going out to the movies
30:27 – Toy Story's 30th anniversary at AMC
32:29 – Big theaters, ticket prices, and the $100 outing
35:04 – Storytelling's effect on society
36:15 – Mental health and drug ads before the movie
39:25 – What counts as an indie film today
44:18 – Stretching a small budget
46:01 – Pay your crew and feed them well
48:36 – Wearing too many hats on set
50:05 – Finding out what you're made of on set
52:55 – Casting kids and upcoming projects
54:13 – Rejection, patience, and spiritual practice
56:44 – Casting, location scouting, and wrap-up
ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Filmmaker Jason Noto, director of El Camino and Beyond the Night, joins Lou to talk about getting audiences back into movie theaters, the trauma of producing a feature film only to watch it drown in the streaming slipstream, and working with Timothée Chalamet and Elisabeth Moss before their careers blew up.
We also get into how Substack's algorithm served Jason up to Lou, why Timothée is still "Timmy" to Jason, the pre-Mad Men, pre-Handmaid's Tale Elisabeth Moss in El Camino, and Jason's latest feature, Beyond the Night.