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Hawk Jensen & Clifton Duncan: Follow the Science

KEY MOMENTS

0:00 – Intro: Hawk Jensen and Clifton Duncan of Follow the Science
1:07 – How the Sound Mind Creative Group started
3:15 – Making a film while fearing cancel culture
4:20 – What "follow the science" really meant
6:31 – Clifton's journey from compliance to doubt
8:41 – Masks outside in Central Park
9:47 – Vaccine mandates hit the entertainment industry
11:54 – Clifton's role as the film's everyman
14:02 – Making a film when everyone lived through it
16:11 – Covering January to October 2020
17:15 – Flattening the curve and changing goalposts
18:21 – The scientists who guide the story
21:32 – What two years of work produced
22:34 – Becoming a new parent during COVID
23:38 – Abandoning what gives life meaning
24:41 – Why New Yorkers were so frightened
25:42 – Why Clifton won't call him Dr. Fauci
26:46 – Vaccine mandates a year after inclusion
27:51 – Why there's no national forgiveness
28:54 – COVID and civil war lines
29:59 – "Do you have your papers?"
32:09 – One giant act of compliance
33:10 – Being a natural contrarian in Hollywood
34:10 – What an American Manhattan Project response could have been
35:17 – Fighting back by telling a story
37:21 – Fudged numbers and Andrew Cuomo
38:28 – Zuby and the people we pretend don't exist
40:38 – Starting a national conversation
42:46 – The Great Barrington Declaration
44:54 – Censorship and snide innuendo online
46:57 – What scares them most
47:59 – Natural immunity and saying no to the jab
51:13 – People who got hurt by COVID
52:19 – Compliance and saving Grandma
54:34 – Leading our fellow citizens back
55:38 – Being right early
57:47 – Community Notes and getting ratioed
58:50 – Open talk about side effects and school closures
1:00:55 – Taking a victory lap
1:02:59 – Cuomo's exit and where to watch the film
1:05:04 – A grassroots half-million-dollar documentary and wrap-up

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Director Hawk Jensen and narrator Clifton Duncan join Lou live to talk about Follow the Science: Lockdowns Go Viral, the grassroots documentary they made with the Sound Mind Creative Group, why Hollywood filmmakers had to work in secret, and vaccine mandates in the entertainment industry.

We also get into Clifton's journey from compliance to doubt, masks outside in Central Park, flattening the curve and changing goalposts, why New Yorkers were so frightened, why Clifton won't call him Dr. Fauci, why there's no national forgiveness, fudged numbers and Andrew Cuomo, Zuby, the Great Barrington Declaration, natural immunity, and taking a victory lap.

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