Corinne Fisher & Greg Lukianoff: Guys We Used to F
KEY MOMENTS
0:00 – Intro to Corinne Fisher and Greg Lukianoff
1:04 – Corinne's podcasts and supporting FIRE
2:43 – A summer surge in campus speech cases
5:28 – Online personas and digging up the past
7:45 – Old cancellations resurfacing in 2020
9:04 – Making the film Can We Take a Joke
10:41 – Co-writing The Coddling of the American Mind
12:57 – What safetyism means
14:17 – Antifragility and disempowered kids
18:12 – Gen Z and the 2013 campus shift
20:27 – Cognitive distortions and catastrophizing
21:33 – Therapy and searching for childhood trauma
24:11 – Class divides and campus ideology
26:12 – Social media and performative anger
27:46 – Origins of Without a Country
31:03 – FIRE's work and Greg's new blog
32:31 – Noom and losing 45 pounds
34:21 – Fat jokes, body positivity, and a campus case
36:33 – Corinne's weight struggle and diagnosis
40:29 – Health, exercise, and feeling better
42:07 – Mighty Ira and the Skokie Nazi march
44:59 – Countering hateful speech with humor
46:11 – Nadine Strossen and free speech heroes
48:10 – Free speech and political polarization
50:12 – Election jitters in D.C. and New York
52:52 – Doing live comedy during the pandemic
54:35 – Why live comedy and theaters matter
56:39 – Final plugs and wrap-up
ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Comedian Corinne Fisher, host of the podcasts Guys We F****d and Without a Country, and Greg Lukianoff, president of FIRE and co-author of The Coddling of the American Mind with Jonathan Haidt, join Lou to talk about free speech on college campuses, safetyism, trauma, and anxiety.
We also get into a summer surge in campus speech cases, old cancellations resurfacing in 2020, making Can We Take a Joke, Gen Z and the 2013 campus shift, catastrophizing, social media and performative anger, Noom and losing 45 pounds, fat jokes and body positivity, Mighty Ira and the Skokie Nazi march, countering hateful speech with humor, and a lil bit about live comedy during the pandemic.